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03/30/25 05:08:33 heav: wait, viba, what timezone are you actually in, anyway?
03/30/25 05:08:41 heav: relative to UTC.
03/30/25 05:08:51 heav: UTC-6?
03/30/25 05:08:55 viba: mountain time
03/30/25 05:08:56 viba: so like
03/30/25 05:09:06 viba: UTC-6 or UTC-7 i dont know how daylight savings works
03/30/25 05:09:18 heav: okay, so it's -6.
03/30/25 05:09:38 heav: strange that the function returns a positive value for a negative offset, but sure, whatever.
03/30/25 05:10:01 raven: oh, I just realized why it's 0.
03/30/25 05:10:07 viba: does it also return a negative value for a positive offset
03/30/25 05:10:12 viba: i mean ih
03/30/25 05:10:13 viba: uh
03/30/25 05:10:16 raven: I have fingerprinting resistance on.
03/30/25 05:10:20 viba: sorry im high on weed and my brain doesnt work
03/30/25 05:10:26 raven: which means that it doesn't tell websites what my time zone is.
03/30/25 05:10:30 viba: does it also return a positive value for a positive offset
03/30/25 05:10:52 heav: i don't know.
03/30/25 05:10:54 raven: so, you can ignore me because my browser is intentionally breaking this.
03/30/25 05:10:57 heav: fair.
03/30/25 05:11:03 heav: viba: if you hard refresh, are the times correct?
03/30/25 05:12:44 viba: yes
03/30/25 05:12:59 heav: okay, cool, thank you.
03/30/25 05:14:13 heav: i wonder what is resulting in these random disconnects.
03/30/25 05:14:19 heav: is the service periodically restarting for some reason?
03/30/25 05:14:34 raven: you could check the logs for errors
03/30/25 05:14:52 heav: i did this.
03/30/25 05:14:53 heav: they're empty.
03/30/25 05:15:25 raven: ok, I fixed that
03/30/25 05:17:43 heav: the disconnects are getting rather frequent. i wonder what that is.
03/30/25 05:17:56 heav: anyway, i'll work on it.
03/30/25 05:18:52 heav: since i'm java script, i'll put it in localstorage.
03/30/25 05:20:40 raven:
03/30/25 05:22:27 raven: "index page"
03/30/25 05:22:39 raven: my random number is 46
03/30/25 05:22:40 heav: that's where we are indeed.
03/30/25 05:22:44 heav: mine is 10.
03/30/25 05:22:48 raven: wow.
03/30/25 05:22:56 heav: also, wow, did you override right to left?
03/30/25 05:23:01 raven: yes
03/30/25 05:23:05 heav: i'm not going to filter that out because i think people should be able to do that.
03/30/25 05:25:24 heav: okay, testing soul reuse now.
03/30/25 05:25:40 viba: my random number is 2
03/30/25 05:25:43 viba: this is a 2 reference
03/30/25 05:25:48 raven: that's ture
03/30/25 05:26:06 heav: yay, soul reuse works (locally, not pushed).
03/30/25 05:26:24 heav: i'll push it when i make the corresponding thing in the thing.
03/30/25 05:30:36 heav: okay, it's all done. hard refresh to attain this change.
03/30/25 05:42:25 raven: the
03/30/25 05:42:33 heav: hello.
03/30/25 05:43:18 heav: is it all working?
03/30/25 05:43:22 raven: it seems so
03/30/25 05:43:28 heav: yay.
03/30/25 05:44:45 heav: i really want to know why it keeps periodically going down.
03/30/25 05:44:47 heav: oh well.
03/30/25 05:44:58 heav: one of these days i should bridge infinipage page #359 to THIANA or something.
03/30/25 13:43:37 rebecca: i enjoy how this site logs all keypresses
03/30/25 14:17:16 heav: it sure does. well, it doesn't actually "log" them permanently.
03/30/25 14:17:19 heav: it does use them.
03/30/25 14:48:48 osmarks: Is THIANA actually up these days?
03/30/25 15:30:21 heav: i think you'd need to consult raven about that.
03/30/25 17:22:20 raven: it's up if I am asked to turn it on.
03/31/25 20:28:02 raven: idea: there should be a count of how many people are actively looking at the page
03/31/25 20:28:17 raven: well, specifically detecting if they have the chat loaded
03/31/25 20:28:26 raven: and detecting if the tab is focused
03/31/25 20:28:29 raven: I think this is possible.
04/01/25 01:14:14 heav: that's an idea, but i don't know how to detect tab focus.
04/01/25 01:14:17 heav: actually, i do have an idea.
04/01/25 01:14:44 heav: browsers usually drastically slow setInterval calls when tabs are in the background.
04/01/25 01:15:10 heav: if i implement that whole "regular ping" idea from a while back, i could only count users who do so with sufficient frequency.
04/01/25 01:15:37 heav: this does rely on that being universal, of course.
04/01/25 01:15:55 raven: there is window.onblur and window.onfocus
04/01/25 01:16:06 heav: i suppose i can use that as a second condition, yes.
04/01/25 01:16:42 heav: i was searching for an activity to do just now. i suppose i can start implementing this right now now immediately now.
04/01/25 01:17:16 heav: i wonder if there's a nice way to force browsers to uncache my script file.
04/01/25 01:17:23 heav: maybe i can refer them to script.js?bee=1.
04/01/25 01:17:45 raven: quite plausible.
04/01/25 01:18:26 heav: i could have seperate counts for those ensouled and those not.
04/01/25 02:23:36 heav: done. you'll have to refresh too of course.
04/01/25 02:23:41 raven: yay, good.
04/01/25 02:23:51 heav: an issue, i suppose, is that this does not deduplicate in any way.
04/01/25 02:24:01 heav: if you open several tabs, so too will it count all of your connections.
04/01/25 02:24:29 heav: i wonder what i can do about this.
04/01/25 02:24:59 heav: an option is to not care about this, i guess.
04/01/25 02:24:59 heav:
04/01/25 02:45:42 heav: oh dear.
04/01/25 02:45:46 heav: i did not test this with a long message bar.
04/01/25 02:45:58 heav: this is very funny but also i'm not quite sure how i'm going to fix it.
04/01/25 02:46:16 raven: long.
04/01/25 02:46:16 heav: back to CSS hell, i guess?
04/01/25 02:46:27 heav: this is a real issue, isn't it.
04/01/25 02:46:38 raven: I don't know what the issue is.
04/01/25 02:46:46 heav: okay, let me see if i can explain.
04/01/25 02:46:56 heav: there are two nested flexboxes here.
04/01/25 02:47:09 heav: one is vertical. it goes: titlebar, statusbar, messages, sendbar.
04/01/25 02:47:23 heav: usually, "messages" is meant to expand to take up all the space it can.
04/01/25 02:47:33 heav: now, message is inside a horizontal flexbox, alongside the list.
04/01/25 02:47:53 heav: but, this means the list's height is now also correlated with and has the same scrollbar as the messages, i guess
04/01/25 02:47:53 heav: ?
04/01/25 02:48:10 heav: and i'm struggling a little to figure out how to resolve this.
04/01/25 02:50:56 heav: i suppose i've figured it out.