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09/07/25 02:24:26 quintopia: oh i found an alternative earthquake method. but earthquakes seem indisposed to create mountains
09/07/25 02:24:47 heav: sadly no.
09/07/25 02:24:55 heav: tectonic plates are real, but i don't think they make mountains yet.
09/07/25 02:25:52 quintopia: should not continent+motion=tectonic plate?
09/07/25 02:26:17 heav: tectonic plate has 2 combos that make it, one of which involves continent.
09/07/25 02:26:37 heav: i think it invariably depends on one of the more abstract words though.
09/07/25 02:27:26 quintopia: sadness
09/07/25 02:28:01 musija: okay, also, c.f.a.w.f.a. (abbreviated for spoilers reasons) made
09/07/25 02:28:26 heav: i hate that i know what "f.a" stands for.
09/07/25 02:29:06 musija: gettable element
09/07/25 02:29:57 musija: the next stage requires the literal mafia though
09/07/25 02:30:42 heav: "the final weapon" might be the least gettable element.
09/07/25 02:31:19 musija: idk, I think the boxed set of books might be hard as well
09/07/25 02:31:30 heav: okay, true.
09/07/25 02:32:37 musija: I started that path a bit earlier but realized I did not have the words for it
09/07/25 02:32:39 musija: I do now though
09/07/25 02:32:54 musija: oh wait I don't
09/07/25 02:38:54 musija: fun fact: until just now, we had both "clothes" and "clothing" as distinct elements, inadverently. this has been fixed.
09/07/25 02:39:08 heav: oh. whoops.
09/07/25 02:39:15 heav: that might've been my fault.
09/07/25 02:39:18 quintopia: am i allowed to sleep before i get "sleep"
09/07/25 02:39:41 heav: probably.
09/07/25 02:43:21 quintopia: this hypergraph is quite sparse
09/07/25 02:43:51 heav: yes, you could note that 4137 is a lot less than 2348^2.
09/07/25 02:44:04 musija: "Hatsune Miku" get.
09/07/25 02:44:28 musija: the recipe for hatsune miku is very normal
09/07/25 02:44:28 quintopia: and also note that it is much much less than 2348^3 (which was the actual comparison i performed to determine it was "quite sparse")
09/07/25 02:44:39 heav: fair.
09/07/25 02:44:46 quintopia: (even though three element combinations means it could be as dense as 2348^4)
09/07/25 02:45:34 musija: "small chemistry + combinations -> googology" type recipe
09/07/25 02:49:19 musija: okay, signed boxed set attained
09/07/25 02:49:29 musija: that was horribly grindy, and I *knew* what the combinations were
09/07/25 02:49:41 raven: time travel is surprisingly easy to get to. I would expect motion + time to produce velocity
09/07/25 02:50:07 quintopia: i would expect fast+motion to produce speed or velocity
09/07/25 02:50:13 raven: hm.
09/07/25 02:50:30 heav: velocity isn't an element yet.
09/07/25 02:50:34 musija: ^
09/07/25 02:50:46 musija: acceleration is, however
09/07/25 02:50:53 quintopia: well, i guess time travel is generally more useful than velocity
09/07/25 02:51:06 heav: we try to avoid synonyms *mostly*, and "motion" has largely taken up velocity.
09/07/25 02:51:09 musija: ^
09/07/25 02:51:20 heav: i might consider it if i have specific ideas for what velocity should do that aren't what motion should do.
09/07/25 02:51:23 musija: "we try to avoid synonyms" with like the three words that all reverse the meaning of something:
09/07/25 02:51:30 quintopia: hmm, i'd expect motion to be more of a synonym to momentum than velocity
09/07/25 02:51:36 heav: inverse, negation and dual notion are such different words.
09/07/25 02:51:42 heav: what could you possibly mean.
09/07/25 02:52:04 musija: dual notion is the most used of those somehow
09/07/25 02:52:22 musija: I guess the insane shitposting whenever a word with "co" arises is part of the reason why
09/07/25 02:52:35 heav: we get a little distracted sometimes while making elements, to say the least.
09/07/25 02:52:36 quintopia: how difficult was "time" raven?
09/07/25 02:52:53 raven: the combination that gets to it is really funny.
09/07/25 02:52:58 raven: it's not that hard to get to.
09/07/25 02:53:14 quintopia: funny as in unexpected?
09/07/25 02:53:21 quintopia: unexpected means hard to predict
09/07/25 02:53:26 heav: there's a logic to it.
09/07/25 02:53:40 raven: it's not unexpected, but it is silly.
09/07/25 02:53:58 viba: the recipe for time is the same as in little alchemy
09/07/25 02:54:11 viba: and yes it is slightly silly
09/07/25 02:54:33 heav: we're both a little influenced by little alchemy, but i don't remember it too well. i mostly came up with that one on my own.
09/07/25 02:55:33 viba: another silly little-alchemy-ism is how mud turns into life somehow
09/07/25 02:55:38 raven: I'm kind of stuck at this point.
09/07/25 02:55:55 heav: have you obtained paper?
09/07/25 02:55:56 raven: oh, wait, never mind.
09/07/25 02:56:05 viba: i have been trying to obtain paper
09/07/25 02:57:49 heav: viba: indeed.
09/07/25 02:58:01 heav: there is an alternative recipe for life but i expect it to be too obscure.
09/07/25 02:58:38 musija: I feel like there are at least one or two others?
09/07/25 02:59:56 musija: yeah, there's at least one or two reasonably viable ones
09/07/25 03:00:01 heav: maybe. i had line 1018 of the spreadsheet in mind when i said that.
09/07/25 03:00:55 raven: disappointed that room + motion does not produce tomo tawa
09/07/25 03:01:12 heav: we actually do have toki pona as an element.
09/07/25 03:01:15 heav: maybe i will deploy.
09/07/25 03:01:23 raven: aha
09/07/25 03:01:34 heav: not that specific combination, but i will make tomo tawa real.
09/07/25 03:01:50 musija: heav: line 1014 is also pretty decent I think?
09/07/25 03:01:57 raven: well, I just meant room + motion = car
09/07/25 03:02:20 heav: fair. we have other combinations for car.
09/07/25 03:02:27 heav: musija: isn't that circular?
09/07/25 03:02:32 heav: i thought that needed life unless i forgot something.
09/07/25 03:02:43 viba: oh, i was wondering why i didn't have room yet
09/07/25 03:02:51 viba: that's because things were changed
09/07/25 03:03:04 quintopia: i thought lightning+mud might get me life but probably i need to figure out how to sun first
09/07/25 03:03:05 musija: heav: line 27
09/07/25 03:03:26 heav: oh yes.
09/07/25 03:03:40 heav: sun is a fairly early element, as a hint.
09/07/25 03:04:43 viba: i was stuck for a while until i realized that mist is actually quite a useful element
09/07/25 03:04:46 raven: earth + wind + fire should produce Earth, Wind, and Fire (joke)
09/07/25 03:05:08 musija: I've forgotten what mist is useful for
09/07/25 03:05:10 raven: thanks for the hint
09/07/25 03:05:42 heav: musija: line 13.
09/07/25 03:05:45 heav: and not much else honestly.
09/07/25 03:05:51 heav: aside from, you know.
09/07/25 03:05:51 quintopia: mist was on the road to sun
09/07/25 03:05:55 heav: c.f.a.whatever indirectly.
09/07/25 03:06:01 quintopia: i did not try enough mist combos
09/07/25 03:06:26 heav: that combination with mist actually gates a lot of things indirectly.
09/07/25 03:06:38 heav: a certain thing along that path ends up being very important for some reason.
09/07/25 03:07:49 heav: musija: where was our periodic table cutoff again?
09/07/25 03:07:52 musija: is f.a. really "very important"
09/07/25 03:07:55 musija: wdym cutoff?