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09/07/25 03:44:17 quintopia: i was not even able to accomplish sand
09/07/25 03:44:54 quintopia: in any case, i'm going to take this to mean "short is within fifty combinations of start"
09/07/25 03:45:21 musija: oh, that is certainly the case. I think human can be done in fairly few combos
09/07/25 03:46:11 heav: sand is attainable within 1 combination of the start of the game.
09/07/25 03:48:50 quintopia: is it one of those dang triples
09/07/25 03:48:56 heav: no.
09/07/25 03:49:06 heav: it's one of the ten extant combinations of the 4 starting elements.
09/07/25 03:49:16 quintopia: i swear i tried all ten
09/07/25 03:49:33 quintopia: oh dang i guess i missed one
09/07/25 03:50:13 musija: amazingly I think plutonium was impossible to get previously
09/07/25 03:50:26 heav: oh yes, due to the circular recipes, i guess the "no recipe" warning never came up.
09/07/25 03:50:34 heav: i was concerned this might happen but couldn't think of any instances.
09/07/25 03:51:07 quintopia: oh dear, you haven't implemented BFS to check connectivity?
09/07/25 03:51:33 heav: i mean, i considered making a seperate application for it. but no.
09/07/25 03:52:38 quintopia: sand+storm!=sandstorm. Darude is most displeased
09/07/25 03:53:01 heav: yes, it's actually something else+storm, oops.
09/07/25 03:53:01 musija: I think the fastest recipe for truth is one of the joke recipes. how amusing
09/07/25 03:54:43 heav: added storm+sand.
09/07/25 03:54:48 heav: to satisfy your sick whims.
09/07/25 03:55:37 musija: I'm very pleased by the fact that I now just have elements like "Oh, I know! surely it's"
09/07/25 03:59:13 quintopia: yay i hit 100
09/07/25 04:01:37 musija: okay, the chemical elements still missing from the game are:
09/07/25 04:03:04 heav: nice.
09/07/25 04:04:11 musija: strontium, samarium, europium, gadolinum, holmium, erbium, thulium, ytterbium, lutetium, hafnium, rhenium, thallium, curium, berkelium, californium, fermium, mendelevium, lawrencium, rutherfordium, dubnium, seaborgium, bohrium, hassium, meitnerium, darmstadtium, roentgenium, copernicium, flerovium, tennessine
09/07/25 04:04:23 heav: ah yes, the useless ones.
09/07/25 04:07:34 quintopia: i now have human
09/07/25 04:07:38 quintopia: very close to sleep
09/07/25 04:10:37 quintopia: and sleep achieved
09/07/25 04:10:41 quintopia: i will do the same
09/07/25 04:15:56 musija: curium, californium, europium, holmium all done now
09/07/25 04:28:12 musija: hafnium has uses
09/07/25 05:08:18 musija: thank goodness for:
09/07/25 05:08:19 musija: - magnets
09/07/25 05:08:21 musija: - optics
09/07/25 05:16:29 musija: anyway, everything up to berkelium now exists
09/07/25 05:30:16 musija: okay, new hardest element to acquire, probably, is named "periodic table: H through Mv". zero points if you can guess what you have to do to acquire this.
09/07/25 06:11:38 musija: well, now the hardest element to acquire is "the ultimate alloy".
09/07/25 06:12:09 heav: arguably it's more discoverable than others.
09/07/25 06:12:15 musija: that's true
09/07/25 06:12:20 musija: it is definitely the most work, though
09/07/25 06:14:59 musija: anyway, now every element on the periodic table exists
09/07/25 06:15:40 musija: I wonder if I should do the grinding necessary to gain it myself
09/07/25 06:25:58 musija: > made: cobalt (new!)
09/07/25 06:26:02 musija: that was an unreasonable amount of effort
09/07/25 06:26:08 musija: and I knew how to do it
09/07/25 06:26:10 musija: lovely
09/07/25 06:26:16 heav: i'm sure anyone will have cobalt.
09/07/25 06:26:33 musija: maybe we should add another recipe for basalt
09/07/25 06:26:41 musija: bay + salt perhaps?
09/07/25 06:26:44 musija: we would need "bay"
09/07/25 06:26:54 musija: we have bay.
09/07/25 06:27:33 musija: well now you need the buddha but at least you don't need the mafia
09/07/25 06:41:06 musija: I've made the periodic table through rubidium right now. challenging elements I've noticed:
09/07/25 06:42:02 musija: cobalt by far; scandium, germanium a little, krypton
09/07/25 06:44:57 musija: okay, I think the next horrible element is ruthenium
09/07/25 06:46:20 musija: I say this and then get it in like two combinations
09/07/25 06:46:45 musija: it is still pretty appaling though I think
09/07/25 06:47:02 musija: on par with scandium or krypton probably
09/07/25 06:50:46 musija: barium is kind of unpleasant if you don't know the specific application of barium I had in mind devising the recipe
09/07/25 06:52:31 musija: okay, made "periodic table: H through Pm" at much cost to sanity ingame
09/07/25 06:52:39 heav: going to bed now.
09/07/25 06:52:44 musija: same
09/07/25 06:53:02 musija: I can say pretty much without a doubt that "the ultimate alloy" is the most effort to make of any element in this game
09/07/25 13:13:57 olive: hi
09/07/25 13:14:28 olive: I've put out an oil fire
09/07/25 13:20:51 olive: twice now!
09/07/25 13:21:57 olive: aw no pressure + steam
09/07/25 16:04:54 musija: hi
09/07/25 16:28:55 musija: this game really does often cause you to get caught in recursive crafting needs for so long you forget what you were making
09/07/25 16:59:23 musija: > made: the entire periodic table (new!)
09/07/25 16:59:28 musija: wow that was a lot of work
09/07/25 16:59:30 quintopia: all the most logical productions for "rust" do not work :(
09/07/25 16:59:33 heav: nice.
09/07/25 16:59:41 musija: I don't think rust is even an element
09/07/25 16:59:44 heav: it is.
09/07/25 16:59:46 musija: wait it is?!
09/07/25 16:59:47 heav: line 17.
09/07/25 17:00:14 musija: hm.. adding more elements
09/07/25 17:00:33 quintopia: well, iron+oxygen, iron+water, iron+time do not work. those are the only ways i know how to make rust irl
09/07/25 17:00:51 heav: the current recipe does not involve iron, i believe.
09/07/25 17:00:58 heav: but moooosey seems to be adding more now.
09/07/25 17:01:39 musija: I added a few recipes for rust. one of those is involved
09/07/25 17:03:17 quintopia: is electrum real
09/07/25 17:06:15 musija: not yet
09/07/25 17:06:42 heav: not formerly. many other alloys are real, though.
09/07/25 17:06:59 musija: electrum is real now
09/07/25 17:07:14 musija: > made: the ultimate alloy (new!)
09/07/25 17:07:15 musija: whee
09/07/25 17:12:59 quintopia: idea: clock+bird=cuckoo clock
09/07/25 17:15:28 quintopia: hmm, why is sheep+axe=mutton, but pig+axe!=pork?
09/07/25 17:15:45 musija: inconsistency
09/07/25 17:19:18 quintopia: i have constructed pylon. how do i construct additional pylons?
09/07/25 17:21:21 quintopia: suggestion: power+lightbulb=light, or power+wire+lightbulb=light, or likewise with electricity instead of power
09/07/25 17:21:30 quintopia: there should be a way to get light from lightbulb
09/07/25 17:25:35 quintopia: also, I really wanted jupiter+moon+ocean=europa to work. likewise jupiter+moon+iron=ganymede and jupiter+moon+volcano=io
09/07/25 17:26:42 musija: none of europa, ganymede, or io exist currently
09/07/25 17:28:15 quintopia: i mainly wanted europa so that i could europa+park=europa-park >_>
09/07/25 17:28:33 musija: I don't think I understand that one
09/07/25 17:29:04 quintopia: but i guess rust+park=europa-park would also work :P
09/07/25 18:04:28 musija: there are currently 12 secret/nonstandard periodic table elements