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04/01/25 05:05:39 musija: and I think I like the idea of having a sibling who could be "tolerable"
04/01/25 05:05:44 heav: the only people i feel like i can properly interact with are online.
04/01/25 05:05:48 musija: yes
04/01/25 05:06:09 raven: my brother is very supportive to me at this time of my life.
04/01/25 05:06:15 musija: that is good
04/01/25 05:06:36 heav: my brother is younger than me and very embroiled in, well.
04/01/25 05:06:39 heav: contemporary meme culture, i guess?
04/01/25 05:06:41 musija: I feel disadvantaged textually in that my soulname is the longest of anyone here
04/01/25 05:06:54 raven: my younger brother is significantly younger than me. I see him sometimes.
04/01/25 05:06:55 heav: by one entire character.
04/01/25 05:06:59 musija: is there actually a single object that is "contemporary meme culture"
04/01/25 05:07:07 musija: I guess actually maybe
04/01/25 05:07:11 heav: obviously there are meme subcultures.
04/01/25 05:07:19 heav: i guess he's more part of what i'd call meme pop culture.
04/01/25 05:07:32 musija: I feel weird dealing with like popular meme culture in my few exposures to it
04/01/25 05:07:47 heav: i mostly completely abandoned meme culture some years ago.
04/01/25 05:07:55 heav: i don't really know why. i guess i just grew disillusioned.
04/01/25 05:08:07 musija: I do not really follow it or understand it and I find the pace of "spamming #general with nonsensical memes" uncomfortable and the level of interest minimal
04/01/25 05:08:27 heav: i never particularly partook in it but i was certainly a spectator to it.
04/01/25 05:08:29 musija: I have left servers because the default mode of interaction in them is stressful to em
04/01/25 05:08:31 musija: me
04/01/25 05:08:54 heav: nowadays, yes, i cannot really interact with the kind of people who are within meme culture.
04/01/25 05:09:07 heav: i mean, i can't really interact with the average internet person in general because they're toxic and mean.
04/01/25 05:09:30 musija: I don't know a lot of "toxic mean people" thankfully but I do know a lot of people that I absolutely do not gel with like at all
04/01/25 05:09:42 heav: any such people, i don't end up continuing to know.
04/01/25 05:09:50 heav: but many big or mainstream discord servers are entirely composed of such.
04/01/25 05:10:01 musija: that's fair. I do not think I am really in any
04/01/25 05:10:18 heav: and there are of course some other common internet places they can be found.
04/01/25 05:10:35 heav: but yes, i also mostly resign myself to much smaller more neurodivergent and queer communities.
04/01/25 05:10:42 heav: which are more tolerable.
04/01/25 05:10:51 raven: it was interesting to work at a company that is in some sense required to be in tune with such things
04/01/25 05:10:58 viba: I half a half- and step- brother who are a whole decade younger than me, and they are like my viewport into the world of 7-10 year old children who stare at ipads forever
04/01/25 05:11:04 musija: conwaylife discord is pretty chill despite the weird recent incursions of unchill. uhh other large discords I'm in are like. googology discord? people aren't quite as chill there but I never interact there
04/01/25 05:11:31 heav: my brother is like that, but slightly older (we have a 5 to 6 year age gap).
04/01/25 05:11:56 musija: I do like our [this being largely the circle heav and I inhabit which is not too intersecting with apionet sadly] ingroup though and the in-memes and stuff we've developed over time
04/01/25 05:12:12 heav: yes, i enjoy that friend group.
04/01/25 05:12:28 viba: I mean I was also an overly online 7 year old, just offset by a decade
04/01/25 05:12:39 heav: the intersection of which with apionet includes me and also you i guess whenever i drag you out here.
04/01/25 05:12:46 musija: I was overly online starting at 12.
04/01/25 05:12:49 musija: and continuing forever.
04/01/25 05:13:13 musija: I should interact with apionet more but I struggle to for aforementioned reasons
04/01/25 05:13:30 heav: to be fair i don't interact with apionet much either, yes.
04/01/25 05:13:30 raven: which reasons?
04/01/25 05:13:32 heav: i mostly just lurk there.
04/01/25 05:13:37 viba: it is strange to me that overly online children these days are growing up never using a PC
04/01/25 05:13:42 viba: or at least I think that's how it is
04/01/25 05:13:53 raven: that seems to be how it is to some extent.
04/01/25 05:14:06 musija: raven: my house has cursed internet that cannot connect to random and arbitrary things
04/01/25 05:14:31 raven: well, you can just go on discord in that case.
04/01/25 05:14:38 musija: that's true
04/01/25 05:14:40 heav: mostly, mainline apionet is dead and heav optimal chat, despite the name, isn't something i talk in much.
04/01/25 05:14:45 musija: I should do that more often but I "forget"
04/01/25 05:14:50 heav: it's not "dead" but i suppose there's no interesting activity for me there.
04/01/25 05:14:59 musija: wait so where do you convene these days anyway
04/01/25 05:15:13 heav: well, they're in heav optimal chat.
04/01/25 05:15:19 heav: they post there a lot. i don't as much.
04/01/25 05:15:22 musija: I see
04/01/25 05:15:35 musija: some of the things I cannot access include: seemingly ubq's website, fandom, and ao3
04/01/25 05:15:49 heav: how will you watch boundless homestuck fanfiction now?
04/01/25 05:16:00 raven: ao3 video content
04/01/25 05:16:06 viba: my wifi is also very strange and janky but in a different way
04/01/25 05:16:06 heav: i mean read.
04/01/25 05:16:12 musija: I would accuse some sort of firewallage on the part of my parents but I do not think they actually did this I think it is just an artifact of our internet being dogwater garbage more generally
04/01/25 05:16:19 viba: in that it just doesn't connect to certain devices and operating systems
04/01/25 05:16:26 heav: i mean, "random domains are inaccessible" is a weird problem.
04/01/25 05:16:35 raven: it may not be domains.
04/01/25 05:16:40 musija: I wonder if any domains are mahlo--
04/01/25 05:16:59 raven: if it were domains, you could bypass this with /etc/hosts
04/01/25 05:17:14 heav: she's on macos, i think.
04/01/25 05:17:19 musija: I am on macos
04/01/25 05:17:22 musija: sadly
04/01/25 05:17:26 raven: macos has /etc/hosts I think.
04/01/25 05:17:35 musija: what is "/etc/hosts"
04/01/25 05:17:38 musija: I am not "computer"
04/01/25 05:17:47 raven: a file.
04/01/25 05:17:49 musija: at least, not in comparison to everyone else here
04/01/25 05:18:00 heav: i'm actually pretty unknowledgable about this stuff too.
04/01/25 05:18:03 viba: me too
04/01/25 05:18:07 raven: 165.227.238.89 ubq323.website
04/01/25 05:18:12 raven: can be added to /etc/hosts
04/01/25 05:18:17 raven: open terminal
04/01/25 05:18:18 musija: I've found /etc/hosts I guess
04/01/25 05:18:25 heav: i bet it was located at /etc/hosts.
04/01/25 05:18:36 musija: howd you guess
04/01/25 05:18:41 heav: sheer chance.
04/01/25 05:19:04 musija: terminal opened etc
04/01/25 05:19:15 raven: sudo sh -c 'echo "165.227.238.89 ubq323.website" >> /etc/hosts'
04/01/25 05:19:21 heav: i've been staring at this magenta screen for so long that when i looked at the white wall next to me, a cutout of it looked green.
04/01/25 05:19:29 heav: and a part above my vision magenta.
04/01/25 05:20:05 musija: it seems like I am still unable to connect
04/01/25 05:20:15 viba: I experienced something similar with something in the the wonderful game update, but that's secret
04/01/25 05:20:17 heav: what if you connect to the IP specifically?
04/01/25 05:20:22 heav: like, just in your browser.
04/01/25 05:20:23 raven: yes, so probably unrelated to domain names.
04/01/25 05:21:06 musija: heav: wait, how? do I just put the ip address as the address or
04/01/25 05:21:10 heav: yes.
04/01/25 05:21:24 musija: that also does not work
04/01/25 05:21:26 heav: you can connect to IP addresses. in fact, all that domain names do is point to some IP and port, to my knowledge.
04/01/25 05:21:59 heav: anyway, sad.
04/01/25 05:22:01 musija: heav: re magenta, same