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04/03/25 04:55:13 Aerion: if nothing is nothing, than it is something which is itself which is nothing
04/03/25 04:56:06 heav: hi.
04/03/25 04:56:10 Aerion: oh hi
04/03/25 04:56:12 heav: wow, you both chatted a lot. i will consult logs.
04/03/25 04:56:15 heav: also yay the noises work.
04/03/25 04:56:21 Aerion: i like noises
04/03/25 04:56:25 Aerion: tickles
04/03/25 04:56:42 heav: raven; are the noises working on your end?
04/03/25 04:56:43 raven: "how could someone say something without meaning it", I thought, reeling. I didn't think it would hurt so much to realize it was just button-pushing, reward-hacking.
04/03/25 04:56:45 heav: (if you have them on).
04/03/25 04:56:46 raven: they are.
04/03/25 04:56:49 heav: yay.
04/03/25 04:59:26 Aerion: I'm tired i should sleep
04/03/25 04:59:35 heav: maybe you should.
04/03/25 04:59:39 raven: no one should ever sleep, ever.
04/03/25 04:59:42 heav: i should do that too, for more logistical reasons.
04/03/25 04:59:55 heav: i shouldn't sleep ever, but also my body's design is very poorly thought out.
04/03/25 05:00:01 heav: so i have to, to an extent.
04/03/25 05:00:05 raven: sad.
04/03/25 05:00:33 Aerion: you should do that thing fish do where they turn off one side of their brain
04/03/25 05:00:44 heav: i don't have that sort of manual control.
04/03/25 05:00:58 Aerion: just edit it
04/03/25 05:01:07 heav: you may refer to my previous message.
04/03/25 05:01:11 Aerion: try sudo
04/03/25 05:01:20 heav: my brain does not have a command prompt.
04/03/25 05:01:26 Aerion: maybe it should
04/03/25 05:01:37 Aerion: try imagining one
04/03/25 05:01:41 Aerion: type it in there
04/03/25 05:01:52 heav: just because things should be so does not mean they are.
04/03/25 05:01:54 raven: it's funny that you say that because there was a cult of rationalists on the news, and one of their things was this supposed technique of falling asleep with one eye open, so that only one half of the brain falls asleep.
04/03/25 05:02:15 heav: that definitely sounds like how the brain works.
04/03/25 05:02:22 raven: haha
04/03/25 05:02:22 Aerion: oh yes
04/03/25 05:02:27 Aerion: very rational
04/03/25 05:02:35 heav: i wonder if that would work for the people who have their brain hemispheres severed.
04/03/25 05:02:40 raven: here is my new philosophy. it's called "being right".
04/03/25 05:02:49 Aerion: I know this one!
04/03/25 05:02:57 heav: i've found self-proclaimed rationalists to be varying degrees of insufferable.
04/03/25 05:03:16 raven: is gollark a rationalist
04/03/25 05:03:29 Aerion: good thing i'm a solipsist instead
04/03/25 05:03:30 heav: i'm not sure he's called himself that.
04/03/25 05:03:38 heav: but, it feels like he's part of that space to me.
04/03/25 05:03:59 raven: he certainly occupies a proximal ideatic space
04/03/25 05:04:10 heav: in recent years i've become somewhat convinced lately that people who identify under being more correct or thoughtful typically just get better at rationalizing their irrationally held beliefs with more words.
04/03/25 05:04:23 heav: "rationalists" included.
04/03/25 05:04:31 raven: yes, perhaps true!
04/03/25 05:04:41 raven: it's funny to imagine gollark shooting someone
04/03/25 05:04:54 heav: that's definitely a mental image.
04/03/25 05:04:58 Aerion: if you say enough things in a sequence of words and patterns and letters then you can't possibly ever be wrong
04/03/25 05:05:08 heav: this is called a gish gallop.
04/03/25 05:05:36 raven: aha
04/03/25 05:05:47 Aerion: if a message is more than a single line it doesn't scroll to the bottom
04/03/25 05:05:57 heav: worryingly true.
04/03/25 05:06:04 heav: i think i have a hacky workaround in mind for some of these problems.
04/03/25 05:06:13 Aerion: how dare you have a flawed website
04/03/25 05:06:24 Aerion: I blame you for everything ever
04/03/25 05:06:25 heav: it's to spite God.
04/03/25 05:06:34 heav: God is directly hurt by poorly thought out webdev things, see.
04/03/25 05:06:52 heav: this is why God died a while ago. it was because of contemporary web design.
04/03/25 05:06:58 Aerion: poor sod in the recosm
04/03/25 05:07:14 heav: anyway. for logistical reasons i have to sleep very imminently.
04/03/25 05:07:20 heav: so, i'll depart.
04/03/25 05:07:23 Aerion: I think I will as well
04/03/25 05:07:25 heav: i'm glad the sound stuff works.
04/03/25 05:07:33 Aerion: goodtime folks
04/03/25 05:07:37 raven: it is a common theme that people hold as aspects of their identity that they are "kind", "rational", or "progressive", and then rather than using this as a standard to strive to, they use it as evidence that any of their actions is aligned with these ideas.
04/03/25 05:07:50 raven: hm. I was scrolled to the bottom of that message.
04/03/25 05:07:54 raven: good night.
04/03/25 05:07:56 heav: it seems inconsistent, yes.
04/03/25 05:08:06 heav: i'm not quite sure what the cause is, but i do need to overhaul this scroll system.
04/03/25 05:08:10 Aerion: you should fix that
04/03/25 05:08:13 Aerion: bye bye
04/03/25 05:08:15 heav: bye.
04/03/25 05:12:38 raven: "doing politics is bad. here's what you should do instead: [politics]"
04/03/25 15:36:11 heav: that was certainly one of gollark's takes ever.
04/03/25 15:36:39 raven: hi heav.
04/03/25 15:36:41 heav: "politics is bad" is itself a very political statement.
04/03/25 15:36:45 heav: also hi.
04/03/25 15:37:00 raven: I am presently suffering for an unknown reason.
04/03/25 15:37:06 heav: unfortunate.
04/03/25 15:37:11 heav: they should inject suffering into my bloodstream.
04/03/25 15:37:20 raven: that's true
04/03/25 15:37:34 heav: currently, i'm attempting to conlang, again.
04/03/25 15:37:37 raven: I happened to have left this tab open, so when I opened my laptop, I heard your dinging
04/03/25 15:37:40 raven: aha.
04/03/25 15:37:48 heav: indeed this is the purpose of me adding dinging to my site.
04/03/25 15:37:57 heav: i'm designing the sound stuff for my conlang first.
04/03/25 15:38:02 raven: aha.
04/03/25 15:38:11 heav: do you want to know of what i have so far?
04/03/25 15:38:23 raven: yes
04/03/25 15:38:32 heav: so, all things henceforth are IPA:
04/03/25 15:38:38 heav: the stops are k g p b t d.
04/03/25 15:38:49 heav: the non-stop non-nasals are s z r j f v h.
04/03/25 15:38:53 heav: the nasals are n m.
04/03/25 15:38:57 heav: vowels are a little more interesting:
04/03/25 15:39:04 heav: i do not have any singular vowels.
04/03/25 15:39:11 heav: rather, there are only diphthongs.
04/03/25 15:39:18 raven: aha, that's amusing
04/03/25 15:39:22 heav: diphthongs are allowed between any of:
04/03/25 15:39:30 heav: i y e ø ɑ o u.