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04/03/25 17:45:23 heav: they should completely destroy and reform the legal system so that it's not a weapon of unspeakable coercive violence.
04/03/25 17:45:30 raven: that's true.
04/03/25 17:45:30 heav: but also make piracy legal if not.
04/03/25 17:45:52 heav: i will consider watching the movie at some point but my focus is on con lang presently.
04/03/25 17:46:28 raven: https://citrons.xyz/files/CWiZoxxC.jpg yeah, I agree.
04/03/25 17:46:52 heav: nice subtitles.
04/03/25 17:46:56 heav: i wonder how the green even happened?
04/03/25 17:47:02 heav: did some control code get thrown in there?
04/03/25 17:47:06 raven: ing.
04/03/25 17:50:41 raven: wow, tortimer is a nationalist
04/03/25 17:50:42 raven: https://citrons.xyz/files/xJNemyaS.jpg
04/03/25 17:51:01 heav: these images take a very long time to load for some reason.
04/03/25 17:51:17 raven: hm, odd.
04/03/25 17:51:33 heav: huh, is that a segment of japan's old flag?
04/03/25 17:52:00 raven: it's the imperial japanese flag
04/03/25 17:52:21 heav: ah.
04/03/25 17:52:22 raven: which is associated with nationalism in japan
04/03/25 17:52:43 raven: but I'm benefit-of-the-doubting its inclusion here
04/03/25 17:53:02 heav: maybe the character is intentionally Bad, or something?
04/03/25 17:53:06 raven: oh, no.
04/03/25 17:53:14 heav: or canonically trying to appeal to a nationalist audience for political gain.
04/03/25 17:53:24 raven: this isn't that kind of film
04/03/25 17:53:31 heav: hmm. i guess it's probably nothing so subversive, given that it's animal crossing, yes.
04/03/25 19:11:14 heav: i've been doing a lot of musing about the conlang, and also have talked to moooosey a bit.
04/03/25 19:11:28 raven: amusing.
04/03/25 19:11:29 heav: i've decided a few things. not enough things to start on making words and a grammar, but it's a start.
04/03/25 19:11:33 heav: good description.
04/03/25 19:12:05 heav: so, yes, zero copula.
04/03/25 19:12:08 heav: also, there are no verbs.
04/03/25 19:12:17 raven: nice.
04/03/25 19:12:34 heav: "X verbs Y": X's action is verb, X's action's target is Y.
04/03/25 19:12:43 heav: that is verbose. but i have some ideas.
04/03/25 19:13:00 raven: verb-ose.
04/03/25 19:13:03 heav: the aspect of this i'm currently trying to figure out is how i'm going to avoid saying X twice. i want some kind of pronoun for linking back to things, however:
04/03/25 19:13:22 heav: i want to be more precise than 'ona', but not so precise that i end up with named variables or a stack or something.
04/03/25 19:13:36 heav: i'm trying to figure out exactly what kind of word i desire here.
04/03/25 19:14:01 heav: also hi Aerion.
04/03/25 19:14:25 raven: I have designed grammars that link declensions to particular pronouns
04/03/25 19:14:49 heav: as in, a certain declension determines which pronoun one can use later?
04/03/25 19:15:05 heav: i think i've pondered this before. that's getting a little close to the "named variables" thing.
04/03/25 19:15:13 raven: yes, it's a bit like that.
04/03/25 19:15:21 heav: ideally i want something which specifically refers back to like, the main object of what's being talked about.
04/03/25 19:15:36 heav: i guess that's roughly what 'ona' does but i want something a bit more precise.
04/03/25 19:16:13 raven: you could have a pronoun that just means that then.
04/03/25 19:16:20 heav: i suppose.
04/03/25 19:16:30 heav: i'll just do that for now, and i'll see if i feel different later.
04/03/25 19:19:26 heav: i was pondering how i'll do adpositions like "in x" and so forth.
04/03/25 19:19:31 heav: my thought was this:
04/03/25 19:19:39 heav: affix which turns a noun into a position inside it.
04/03/25 19:19:48 heav: x's position is (in y).
04/03/25 19:19:56 raven: nice
04/03/25 19:53:12 heav: i now finally have sentences.
04/03/25 19:53:33 raven: nice.
04/03/25 19:53:35 heav: unsure of the finality of the state of the conlang where they're valid, and of course they're all variants on "i exist" because of the lack of vocabulary.
04/03/25 19:53:38 heav: but it's something.
04/03/25 19:53:56 heav: "i exist" itself: moityas loen.
04/03/25 19:54:07 heav: "i'm at your location": moityekio toityekio.
04/03/25 19:54:12 raven: wow.
04/03/25 19:54:28 heav: "i exist at your location": moityas loen aøtiasvua toityekio.
04/03/25 19:54:52 raven: moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. moityekio toityekio. I am coming for you.
04/03/25 19:55:11 heav: (a bit of a strange sentence; the implication is that the existence itself is happening at your location, rather than me being there. but it's one you can say ever with this vocabulary.)
04/03/25 19:55:17 heav: i should figure out "i am coming for you".
04/03/25 19:55:44 heav: i suppose i could add some sort of word like "destination", such that you can say something's destination is (x).
04/03/25 21:20:00 viba: alright so apparently all conversations ever exclusively happen in this chatroom that i forgot existed
04/03/25 21:20:01 viba: got it
04/03/25 21:20:13 viba: oh theres sounds now
04/03/25 21:20:16 heav: hi, viba.
04/03/25 21:20:18 viba: hi
04/03/25 21:20:40 raven: hiba.
04/03/25 21:23:19 viba: i shall try to subside all of the irrational feelings of alienation this has caused me
04/03/25 21:23:58 raven: you can view the Logs, as you are doing
04/03/25 21:24:38 heav: my current activity is to try to make an alpha pattern bracelet.
04/03/25 21:24:44 heav: it's going interestingly, certainly.
04/03/25 21:25:10 raven: I am really tired, so I'm watching a TV show.
04/03/25 21:25:11 heav: i think i did the first colour change slightly wrong but it's not of consequence.
04/03/25 21:26:02 viba: it is a bit irratating how the chat does not automatically scroll down sometimes so i think that messages aren't happening
04/03/25 21:26:12 viba: wait, i suppose that keeping audio notifs off would solve this.
04/03/25 21:26:13 heav: nightscaled reported a similar bug.
04/03/25 21:26:17 viba: s/off/on
04/03/25 21:26:31 heav: i'm going to try to fix that eventually. i have a suspicion as for why it's like that.
04/03/25 21:26:33 raven: I think maybe it doesn't scroll if you're on another tab.
04/03/25 21:26:38 heav: it should be scrolling down automatically and it does for me.
04/03/25 21:26:38 viba: indeed
04/03/25 21:26:42 viba: (re raven)
04/03/25 21:26:42 heav: but not always.
04/03/25 21:26:43 raven: someone should send a message.
04/03/25 21:26:46 heav: message.
04/03/25 21:26:47 heav: m.
04/03/25 21:26:50 heav: stuff.
04/03/25 21:26:53 raven: hm, it scrolled.
04/03/25 21:26:59 heav: in any case.
04/03/25 21:27:11 heav: i suspect the whole "scroll to" thing probably doesn't work in some contexts.
04/03/25 21:27:13 raven: re raven is how I am referred to on some documents
04/03/25 21:27:36 heav: i liked the smooth scroll animation.
04/03/25 21:27:42 heav: but it seems to not even happen half the time anyway.
04/03/25 21:27:49 heav: so i may replace it with just directly setting the scrolling to the bottom.
04/03/25 21:28:03 raven: https://citrons.xyz/files/KxZLJseE.png
04/03/25 21:28:23 heav: rlike.
04/03/25 21:29:12 viba: re the conlang discussion that i am too lazy to read in detail:
04/03/25 21:29:23 viba: i feel like my conlangy mood has been very very slowly returning lately