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04/03/25 17:06:01 heav: i would like my "is" to moreso mean the second thing; literal equality.
04/03/25 17:06:08 heav: something isn't green; its colour is green.
04/03/25 17:06:12 heav: does this make sense?
04/03/25 17:06:24 heav: only green is green.
04/03/25 17:07:01 heav: this could also be how "x is (doing something)" is expressed.
04/03/25 17:07:08 heav: x isn't doing something; x's current action is doing something.
04/03/25 17:07:51 heav: this is what english "is" ultimately does, perhaps, except it can refer to a bunch of traits implicitly depending on context.
04/03/25 17:07:57 heav: in my language, these would be made explicit instead.
04/03/25 17:10:07 raven: that's nice
04/03/25 17:11:11 heav: yes. i think i like this solution.
04/03/25 17:11:22 heav: i would make it elegant and fast to refer to things like "x's current action".
04/03/25 17:11:30 heav: and this would replace the overloading of "is".
04/03/25 17:13:11 heav: another conlang subversion:
04/03/25 17:13:23 heav: in many conlangs i see and in many i've made, ambiguity is the absolute enemy.
04/03/25 17:13:34 heav: there can't be any ambiguity in grammar or which word a word is.
04/03/25 17:13:46 heav: while i'm not going to introduce it on purpose, i don't think i'm going to be so strict about it either.
04/03/25 17:13:55 heav: natlangs have taught me that, in practice, it's okay and sometimes fun to have ambiguity.
04/03/25 17:15:39 heav: toki pona of course contains a lot of its own ambiguity too, especially with preverbs and prepositions, but everyone seems to get by just fine.
04/03/25 17:17:00 heav: for instance, if i add suffixes or prefixes, i won't necessarily worry about word collisions.
04/03/25 17:18:30 raven: that makes sense
04/03/25 17:20:23 heav: at this point, i suppose i'd be ready to just make the words for "is" and a few nouns. but before i do, i feel like there's more i should consider.
04/03/25 17:20:37 heav: namely, distinctions of, say, plurality, case, so forth.
04/03/25 17:20:45 heav: i haven't quite figured out what i wish to do there.
04/03/25 17:21:16 heav: plurality seems like a fun one. there are many cool systems out there past just "singular" and "plural".
04/03/25 17:22:14 heav: concept: if my "is" word is used for enough mechanisms, i could have it be implicit.
04/03/25 17:22:25 heav: if you put two noun phrases next to eachother, perhaps an implicit "is" is formed between them.
04/03/25 17:22:30 heav: no word needed.
04/03/25 17:23:38 raven: this is a common way that zero copula works
04/03/25 17:24:04 heav: it is not implausible.
04/03/25 17:24:09 heav: i will think about if i want to do this.
04/03/25 17:26:03 heav: oh, the minecraft movie happened?
04/03/25 17:26:05 heav: i didn't know.
04/03/25 17:26:57 raven: my family members and I will convene to watch it in theaters.
04/03/25 17:27:04 heav: "There’s a through line, buried in here somewhere, about how it’s harder to be creative, easier to destroy. Unfortunately, A Minecraft Movie proves its own point. Creativity took too much effort. Easier to destroy the spirit of the video game instead." - some reviewer.
04/03/25 17:27:38 raven: I think it will be a horrible movie, but doing an activity with them is nice.
04/03/25 17:27:50 raven: also, good review.
04/03/25 17:27:52 heav: the reviews seem quite bad.
04/03/25 17:27:58 raven: good.
04/03/25 17:28:10 heav: basically everyone has a similar criticism, to some extent: "wow, actual fans of the game probably won't like this very much".
04/03/25 17:28:11 raven: I hate when people pretend these movies are good.
04/03/25 17:28:19 raven: "wow, the sonic movie was actually great"
04/03/25 17:29:18 raven: apparently, my ex-employer has a cameo in the movie
04/03/25 17:29:36 heav: wow, that's simultaneously surprising and unsurprising.
04/03/25 17:29:56 heav: i guess they really went *that* route.
04/03/25 17:30:25 raven: well, as I understand it, she just appears in the background at some point.
04/03/25 17:30:28 heav: "look, we have your favourite People in the movie. it's good, right? you like the movie, right? because look at all the People we put in it."
04/03/25 17:30:33 raven: haha
04/03/25 17:30:51 raven: I mean, that's the fundamental structure of these things.
04/03/25 17:30:57 raven: look, jack black is steve for some reason.
04/03/25 17:31:04 heav: that's fair. i mean, it's a reflection of the broader reason for this movie.
04/03/25 17:31:08 heav: "look, it's minecraft for some reason".
04/03/25 17:31:13 raven: that's true.
04/03/25 17:31:45 heav: it's an appeal to nostalgia and popularity that fails to actually have any appeal of its own.
04/03/25 17:32:04 heav: but, well. i think everyone's been saying that already.
04/03/25 17:32:33 raven: the worst aspect of the film is it seems like it looks absolutely nothing like minecraft
04/03/25 17:32:42 heav: yes, they really didn't try, did they?
04/03/25 17:33:04 heav: they have this cursed half-realism look, unable to commit to one or the other.
04/03/25 17:33:14 raven: that's one thing that the mario movie had. in terms of visual design, it was really good.
04/03/25 17:33:24 heav: i've not seen any parts of the mario movie.
04/03/25 17:33:44 raven: it was fairly bland otherwise.
04/03/25 17:33:53 heav: i wonder if they'll ever make a good video game movie.
04/03/25 17:34:23 heav: or, well. i suppose "video game franchise movie" is honestly more accurate to how these things tend to be.
04/03/25 17:35:07 raven: the thing is that there have been good video game movies. I think the difference is this: high budget american studios vs. otherwise
04/03/25 17:35:17 raven: compare: "detective pikachu" and the actual pokemon movies
04/03/25 17:35:18 heav: i'm largely unfamiliar with them, i suppose.
04/03/25 17:35:25 heav: ah, yes. those are "video game movies" in a sense.
04/03/25 17:35:30 heav: maybe in the strictest sense.
04/03/25 17:35:34 raven: indeed.
04/03/25 17:35:56 heav: those actually had substance other than appeal to "wow look it's the thing".
04/03/25 17:36:02 raven: yes.
04/03/25 17:36:23 raven: perhaps due to being part of the context of the TV shows, but the
04/03/25 17:36:27 heav: fair.
04/03/25 17:36:43 heav: i think the bad video game movies could be better if they had less isekai.
04/03/25 17:37:06 heav: they should actually be about and in their own universe, not its interaction with some other universe.
04/03/25 17:37:37 raven: yes.
04/03/25 17:37:43 raven: there was also an animal crossing movie
04/03/25 17:37:46 heav: there was?
04/03/25 17:37:50 heav: wow. what was that like?
04/03/25 17:37:50 raven: released only in japan.
04/03/25 17:38:01 raven: I saw it quite a while ago.
04/03/25 17:38:12 raven: I think it was pretty good, but I don't quite remember.
04/03/25 17:38:15 heav: that sounds like it could either be really good or very mundane.
04/03/25 17:39:38 raven: regardless of anything, it was actually reminiscent of the source material rather than being a meaningless soup of signifiers
04/03/25 17:39:47 heav: that's definitely a good start.
04/03/25 17:40:12 raven: I'm going to try to pirate it.
04/03/25 17:40:22 heav: good idea.
04/03/25 17:41:48 raven: ?? I found a torrent on archive.org, but it solely provides a... sqlite database?
04/03/25 17:41:59 heav: a database?
04/03/25 17:42:02 heav: for a movie?
04/03/25 17:42:17 raven: this does not contain a movie. hm.
04/03/25 17:42:24 heav: what on earth is in the database?
04/03/25 17:43:15 raven: oh, I found a direct download
04/03/25 17:43:21 heav: good.
04/03/25 17:44:02 heav: archive.org of all places?
04/03/25 17:44:13 raven: it archives.
04/03/25 17:44:23 heav: i suppose i would have thought they'd be utterly obliterated for doing that.
04/03/25 17:44:45 raven: some things are under-the-radar enough for them not to be obliterated for
04/03/25 17:44:59 heav: they should make piracy legal everywhere.
04/03/25 17:45:08 raven: I agree intensely.
04/03/25 17:45:23 raven: I am now watching the movie.